El presidente de la Eurocámara culpa a los recortes del resultado

Martin SchulzVoto de los italianos refleja rechazo claro de los “recortes unilaterales”, sobre todo, pone en duda la idea de que esos recortes sirven para recuperar la confianza. El presidente del Parlamento Europeo, Martin Schulz, ha sido el primero de los responsables de instituciones europeas en valorar lo ocurrido. “El pueblo ha expresado su insatisfacción con estas políticas”, ha subrayado esta mañana Martin Schulz, que traslada este mensaje a todos los líderes comunitarios: “Tomémonos esto en serio. Ciudadanos están dispuestos a hacer sacrificios, pero solo si conducen a una mejora”. El mandatario socialdemócrata alemán es consciente que buena parte del descontento de los electores, no solo en Italia, se dirige hacia Bruselas. “Reglas europeas se han decidido con el apoyo de Italia y el presupuesto italiano se ha decidido en Italia, pero la percepción pública es que esto viene de Europa. Nos lo tomamos muy en serio. Debemos dialogar sobre cómo superar esta situación”, analizó Schulz, que ve “especie de protesta” en actitud de electores. Como respuesta, cree que Europa debe combinar mejor recortes presupuestarios con las políticas que fomentan crecimiento y empleo, especialmente el de los jóvenes. “Mayoría del Parlamento ya ha pedido eso a la Comisión Europea, sobre todo, a Estados”, añadió. Porque lo expresado anoche en Italia no solo afecta a italianos: “Estamos en el mismo barco. Todos los partidos políticos, socialdemócratas en el Parlamento [donde se encuadra el ganador de las elecciones, al menos aritméticamente, el centroizquierdista Bersani] debemos hablar con nuestros interlocutores italianos”. Schulz admitió la difícil situación que se ha creado en Italia, pero confia se pueda formar un Gobierno. Pese a la crítica actitud que ha mantenido siempre hacia Berlusconi, Schulz recordó que ha cosechado un buen número de votos. “Tiene el apoyo de muchos italianos y todo el mundo debe respetar eso”. (Fuente: El Pais.com – 26/02/2013)

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  1. (…..) When he came to power in November 2011, after Mr. Berlusconi stepped down amid intense market turmoil, Mr. Monti was praised for restoring international confidence in Italy. Although he won plaudits from European leaders and President Obama, Italians disliked him for raising the retirement age and taxes. “Taxes, taxes and more taxes, that’s what voters remember the most from Monti,” said Stefano Sacchi, a professor of political science at the University of Milan. “When he stopped being a technocrat and became a politician, he came under fire for the same issues Italians blame other politicians for.” While Mr. Monti said repeatedly that if Italy managed to make its economy more competitive, taxes could eventually be lowered, his message was drowned out in the final days of a chaotic campaign by Mr. Grillo’s anti-austerity message — his party may even decide to hold a referendum on whether Italy should remain in the euro zone — as well as by Mr. Berlusconi’s antics. The former prime minister told voters that he would reimburse them for an unpopular property tax and sent campaign literature in envelopes that read “2012 Tax Refund” in the same typeface used by Italy’s tax collection agency. But the most startling result of the election was the success of the Five Star Movement, which triumphed after Mr. Grillo campaigned tirelessly while leading a powerful Web-based initiative that drew young people and first-time voters, as well as former supporters of Mr. Berlusconi, all united more by their anger at the current system than by any shared ideology. The Five Star Movement drew votes that might have gone to the Democratic Party, especially after the Democratic Party’s leader, Pier Luigi Bersani, a former industry minister who grew up in the Communist Party, defeated Matteo Renzi, the charismatic 38-year-old mayor of Florence, in a party primary. Davide Barillari, the Five Star Movement candidate for president of the Lazio region, said in a television interview that the so-called “Grillini” would not ally with any coalition, but would vote according to their own views on individual laws. “People want to send them all home,” he said of the current Parliament. “Old politics is over.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  2. jck: If you are bankrupt and you reject austerity and continue spending others money,how long does it take others to wise up? Is the political promise”We will not repay our debts”?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  3. Andy:


    These are debts that have been racked up by a succession of corrupt politicians for wasteful, unproductive purposes over several decades since WWII. These are not debts that the individual Italian citizens have made themselves. If anything, Italians have historically been among the highest saving people in the developed world. It is understandable that ordinary Italians would have enough of a corrupt, crony gerontocracy that has only enriched itself and entrenched its hold on power for decades. They are not at fault and they certainly are paying their fair share of the “debt” through massive taxation (21% value added tax, up to 55% income tax, property tax, health care contribution vouchers, slashed pension funds, and so on) The problem is that there is no quick and painless solution in sight, nor are any of the “protest movements” going to provide any realistic plan.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  4. bob rivers:


    Andy, and whose fault is it that the italians have wasted so much of their money? The Germans? The Haitians? Why should people in other nations who work hard and manage to run an efficient system have to send money over to fund the lavish, inefficient lifestyles of the Greeks, Portugese, Spanish, Italians, or any other nation who cannot balance its books?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  5. Rita: Bob, maybe those other countries should have thought about the “inefficient lifestyles” of the countries before forming the EU and looking for members.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  6. Steve Singer: Andy, the spending binge here and in Europe during the last quarter century created a false boom; an enormous bubble in-and-of-itself. There’s no way out short of not creating even more debt. But that entails sacrifices. Most people here and in Europe simply aren’t prepared to accept them, or their inevitability.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  7. Michael F:


    Sorry, Andy. If you want a democracy you get the government you deserve. They voted for corruption in every election. This one included, whether they know it yet or not. Power corrupts is so true it is near axiomatic. How can we be surprised by it anymore?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  8. Professor Uziel Nogueira says: Reading Prof Krugman’s weekly pieces on the subject, I am sure one day he will tell us the solution for such trivial problem as solving public debt.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  9. Doug Broome: Among Beppe Grillo’s advisers is Joseph Stiglitz. Supposedly to avoid corruption, Italian politicians have made themselves about the most richly rewarded. Most Italian journalism is poltically controlled. Grillo broke away from the entire mold. With its electoral support the Five Star Movement is entitled to over $100 million in subsidies. It won’t take a penny. Grillo’s party is web-based and connectivity one of its principles along with ecology. But it will be hard for the Times to report the V-rallies and the party’s basic message shouted jubiliantly the length of Italy: a two-word phrase that has the same initials as the Foreign Office in London. Grillo and his movement wants the corrupt politicians and the austerians to perform this act, and it’s stated explicitly and repeatedly. Speakers list the names of the guilty and the crowd roars: blank blank!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  10. cgehner: The electoral victory of Beppe Grillo strikes me as being in the same vane as the sudden emergence and popularity of the “Pirates” in German (regional) elections about a year ago – it was entirely a protest vote and a reflection of the electorate’s frustration with the “established parties. One year later the “Pirates” have essentially self-destructed by there inability to come to grips with the fact that politics is more than just Twitter feeds and Facebook “Likes”. I similar effect happened in Greece when initially the SYRIZA under Alexis Tsipras won enough votes to essentially prevent the formation of a government, forcing new elections. These resulted in a somewhat more manageable constellation. A political movement which refuses to work with any other party as a “matter of policy” is ultimately doomed to irrelevance. It is like the Tea Party faction within the Republican Party. Also, the term “austerity” is bandied about in an undifferentiated way. Certainly no one wants “austerity” for its own sake, But “austerity” is often the side effect (hopefully temporary) of needed institutional and structural reforms. Italy, by all accounts, desperately needs structural reforms (taxation, employment rules and practices, corruption and governance, etc) and unless those changes are made, it is doomed to steady decline, increasing poverty and permanent “austerity”.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  11. Mathias Weitz: Joseph Stiglitz was also advisor when Greece joined the Euro. And still Greece cooked the books and went on a spending binge which devasted the domestic industry instead of fostering it. Having a nobel laureate on your side means nothing, their equitations constantly deny the insanity of politics, the corruption and profligacy. If Bebbe Grillo would have introduced a 30-hour workweek, what do you think how all the investors will react ? Propably leave the country. And there is no sense in raising the consum when all your needs are served by someone else. Grillo has a point in figthing the establishment and nepotism, but everything else about him is just economic suicide.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  12. Mario Alemi: Dear Mr Broome, News should be checked. Mr Stiglitz was interviewed by Mr Grillo, nothing more. As the wife of the economist, Anya Stiglitz, says, referring to Mr Grillo: “A lot of people attributes a lot of things to my husbands … I doubt he has ever mentioned the five star movement anywhere”. Regards.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  13. Professor Uziel Nogueira says: The most dangerous politicians today are the ones carrying an anti-corruption banner. They are outsiders/opportunists that when in power, exhibit highly incompetence to manage the economy and become as corrupt as the old political guard.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  14. orbit7er: This is yet another step on the road to dethrone the banksters destroying middle classes and the planet worldwide. It is comical that the Goldman Sachs alum appointed by the banksters, Mario Monti is painted by the Corporate Media as a “reformer” For what? To cannibalize the whole public sector and working and middle class to feed it to the banksters who melted down the economy in 2008? Next interesting step will be when Syriza wins the next Greek elections… Change is coming from the people against their would be bankster rulers.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/world/europe/Italy-elections.html

  15. The party officials debated deep into the night on the popular Italian TV talk show “Porta a Porta” (“Door to Door”). That’s their job, after all. The one from the center-right alliance and the one from Silvio Berlusconi’s center-right coalition argued about who had won more — even though both sides lost millions of voters. Mario Monti joined by live videolink to announce that he was actually quite satisfied. This, despite the fact that voters virtually shot his centrist alliance down in flames. It was political waffle, far removed from reality (…..) It’s a bleak prospect for Europe. The overwhelming support given to populists in the election didn’t just stem from homemade problems. It was directly linked to Europe. Many Italians — just like the Greeks, Portuguese and Spaniards — feel like the losers of monetary union. Germany and some other northern nations have become richer thanks to the euro but other regions, especially in the south, have become poorer. Their purchasing power has declined, their unemployment has risen and one in three Italians aged 18 and under lives close to the poverty line.


    And, under an agreement with the European Union, the country is supposed to dedicate 5 percent of its gross domestic product starting in 2015 to reduce its mountain of debt. That might be the right thing to do in macroeconomic terms, but it’s an extremely painful policy to impose on ordinary people. They will become poorer each year because they won’t be able to generate growth anywhere close to 5 percent. They’re not going to accept that, and even more of them will flock to anti-European populists. EU officials have negotiated manifold agreements to bail out banks and countries. But they haven’t thought enough about the impact on people. The EU won’t be able to go on like this in the long run.

    Politicians in Berlin should spend some time thinking about that. The most nonsensical comment on the Italian election came from the German capital, where Economics Minister Philipp Rösler appealed to Rome’s “political common sense.” He added that “there’s no alternative” to the political direction Italy has taken so far. Evidently, there is an alternative — Grillo, for example. “They’re afraid of us,” he recently shouted to a packed square in the northern city of Trento.


    “The whole of Europe is afraid of us”.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/analysis-of-italian-election-outcome-a-885740.html

  16. Global investors have made it clear that the Italian election result is not to their liking, with Moody’s even threatening a rating downgrade. European politicians are also unimpressed and fear the euro crisis may soon return. Some comments have been surprisingly undiplomatic (…..) When leading European politicians finally caught their breaths on Tuesday, reactions — fed by an unmistakable concern that political stasis in Rome could reignite the euro crisis — were harsh. “To a certain degree, I am horrified that two clowns won the election,” Peer Steinbrück, Germany’s former finance minister and the Social Democratic candidate for chancellor in autumn elections, said on Tuesday evening, referring to Berlusconi and Grillo. He said the vote will “contribute to greater problems in the euro zone.” Italian President Giorgio Napolitano, in Germany for a visit, promptly cancelled a planned meeting with Steinbrück as a result of the comment. But German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle likewise gave voice to deep concerns on Tuesday, telling reporters in Berlin “it is now decisive for Italy, because it is such an important country for the whole of Europe, that a stable and effective government can be formed as quickly as possible.” Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble added that “the onus is now on political leaders in Italy to … do what the country needs, namely form a stable government that continues on the successful path of reform.” Indeed, several leading Europeans on Tuesday urged Rome to continue on the reform path embarked on by outgoing Prime Minister Mario Monti, the technocrat leader who took over from Silvio Berlusconi in the autumn of 2011. Monti’s party, however, experienced nothing short of a debacle in the election, receiving a paltry 10 percent of the vote — a clear signal that there is little appetite in Italy for further austerity. “I assume the Italian government, no matter how it may be composed, will stick to its European commitments,” Dutch Finance Minister Jeroen Dijsselbloem, who is also head of the Euro Group, said on Tuesday, adding that there was “no rejoicing” following the election. “A stable government is important to the euro zone. To pull Europe from an economic quagmire, stable politics are required, also in Italy,” he said (…..)

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/european-union-leaders-worry-that-italian-election-may-spur-crisis-a-885816.html

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